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No one on this board, of that I am sure, has attempted going through the hassle it is trying to buy just one vacant lot next to your house from the city. Most of the people that I know that have attempted it have just given up. So, before prejudging what people have attempted to do, understand that a large percentage issues of this type is the red tape involved dealing with an ineffectual city government. Apparently, even rich people, for once, have to deal with it also. -Anon [Trying to Start a Farm For 3 Years Is A Whole Lot Of Effort]